Obama Bombing Other Countries as Hypocritical Liberals Stay Quiet About Peace

Bush was called a “war monger” by liberals as he continued to keep us involved militarily in other countries.  Obama has continued those same undeclared and unconstitutional “wars.”  He has also started many others.  We are now bombing and will continue to drop bombs in many countries.  Obama is bombing people in Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, numerous African countries, and others.  Where are the peace parades and editorials by the liberal left?  Where are the complaints by the media?

Bush’s last campaign was based on “no nation building” and “non intervention.”  That was obviously a lie.  Obama campaigned on the same thing.  That was obviously a lie.

Where are all those bumper stickers with peace signs and Obama symbols?  Where are the “Obama lied, people died” bumper stickers?  Why aren’t liberals calling Obama a “war monger?” This is Barack Obama, the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

He has factually been associated with more death and destruction than Bush.  Now that he is campaigning (he always is) and promising to bring some troops home, why now?  It’s actually Bush’s original timeline.  If there really was one.

I am not opposed to all wars, I’m opposed to dumb wars.   Barack Obama  The New Yorker, May 31, 2004

Liberals are hypocritical to no end, even when they know that their hypocrisy is completely noticeable .  They will talk peace during election season, gather their hippie voters, and then use their power to bomb countries so they aren’t considered “weak” when the votes are cast.  Are any of my liberal readers able to answer this?  Why were you protesting George Bush, Dick Cheney, and their administration whenever they decided (without Confressional approval I might add) to go kill people in other countries?  Why aren’t you protesting now?  You certainly can’t argue that the new “wars” that Obama has participated in are Bush’s fault?  Why?…..Comments below…..Arnegard

22 Responses to Obama Bombing Other Countries as Hypocritical Liberals Stay Quiet About Peace

  1. john liming October 24, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    Unlike some previous presidents, Obama just quietly goes ahead and takes out such International Terrorists as Osama Bin Laden and Gadaffi. I hope he continues on and rids the world of as many as he can. He deserves credit and isn’t getting any from the Conservatives, of course. The Conservatives have one principle by which they govern and they are intellectually incapable of rising above that one principle. That one driving principle of Conservative governance is encapsulated into this few words: “Make sure Obama is a one term president.” They cannot think beyond that goal and they have nothing else to put on the table. It always boils down to one thing with conservatives–Obama!

    • Jessica March 6, 2012 at 3:44 pm #

      John, you need to learn the real reason we went into Libya and why we killed Gadaffi. He was trying to institute a gold-backed dinar to get away from the dollar. Look at what is happening in Syria. They are using the same CIA-Mossad agents to aid the uprisings. Stop watching MSM – it is full of lies. Obama is a wanna-be dictator who is not answering to anyone in these bombings. Eric Holder even said that Obama simply choosing whom to assassinate is the same as due process. Open your eyes!!

      • john liming March 6, 2012 at 10:32 pm #

        You know what matters to me? I will tell you what matters to me.

        What matters to me is that the terrorist has been permanently neutralized and it was President Obama that got the job done. I know that rankles the Right Wing, but too bad!

        Syria? I know nothing of what is going on in Syria because I am not privy to top level Diplomatic exchanges, but I am glad that you are on top of the situation for us.

        Obama is my President and I am pleased that we have him on board instead of some crazy from the Right Wing Clown Wagon.

        • Arnegard March 6, 2012 at 11:55 pm #

          John,

          Jessica is correct. If you look at the countries that the US has bombed or tampered with, you will see a direct correlation. The correlation that Jessica pointed out is correct. And in this case, it is evident that if you are a country, and you choose to stop using the US dollar as your currency, especially when dealing in oil, then you will be bombed. I, for one, think it is horribly sad, and that we are doing it because we know that we can print as much money as we want (other countries do it too), but the minute the rest of the world stops using the US dollar as the world currency, it is game over for us. It doesn’t matter who is president. You’ll notice that the last few haven’t been much different that each other. That fact that you are still pulling for one guy because he has a “D” next to his name, rather than an “R”, makes it clear that you have some illusions. Most all of the GOP candidates are currently as “liberal” in their thinking as Obama is, so why do you care? It doesn’t matter who the captain of this sinking ship is. The fact is that the American people have allowed themselves to be bankrupted by liberals in BOTH parties, and THAT is why I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the left in that they only think it’s okay to bomb people if it is their guy doing it. You can’t argue that…but I know you will..:)

          • john liming March 7, 2012 at 12:06 am #

            All human beings have one kind of illusion or another so that is no biggie, is it? And, No–I will not argue the point because it is pointless to try and talk to a mind that is already made up. That is why I can’t argue with you and why you can’t argue with me. This is where the real problem lies– each of the ideologies wants to be right and neither is willing to give an inch to the other so we have the immoveable object meeting the unstoppable force and it is pointless. I am as proud to be a Liberal, I think, as you are proud to be whatever you are– and that is a good thing because that is what America is about. The sad thing is that there has to be all the ill will and bad feelings between the ideologies. I remember an America where things weren’t that way and it worked out a lot better for everybody.

            • Arnegard March 7, 2012 at 12:20 am #

              Actually, as far as ideologies go, your opposition (Jessica and me) in the last few comments has conceded quite a bit…that Bush and his predecessors was wrong to bomb countries that didn’t need to be bombed. I don’t hear any concessions from your end, only that it is okay for Obama to do it, but not for Bush to do it, especially as we gear up for more of the same undeclared war. We are conceding that Bush (though not a conservative) was wrong in bombing everybody, but you, even though you are talking about how different mindsets won’t agree, are the one who refuses to concede that your god Obama lied about his desires for peace. You have conceded your displeasure with Obama in other threads..why not here? I doubt you’re a warmonger, and probably have knowledge that war, especially undeclared war is wrong. However, it seems it is okay if OBOMBa is doing it.

              • john liming March 7, 2012 at 12:46 am #

                Poor old Obama! It’s always about Obama, isn’t it? Yup! It’s always Obama!

                O.K. I don’t feel like going on with this right now. By the way, Obama is not my God. My God is this big fuzzy guy named Jehovah who had this Son named Jesus Christ who suffered and died for the sins of Mankind– you know the one…the Jesus who some of the Far Right Wingers tried to take off the Cross and put into the voting booth. The one whom most of the Conservative types I know are always telling me will send me to Heck (Substitute for another word meaning “The Bad Place”) unless I change my evil Liberal ways and get a dose of the new Right Wing religion. (Dominionism)

                As to the wars and endless rumors of war, I could care less! We never seem to fight any war where there is no oil and it seems to me to be always the hawks on the Far Right who are finding WMDs or some other cockamamie excuse to start these things.

                I will make whatever concession on these points that you desire because this is your blog and I am a visitor here. When you come onto mine, I hope you will extend to me that same courtesy.

                The Bible says to agree with an adversary while you are yet in the way with him….what the heck ever that is supposed to mean, so…..if it is that important for you to be right….heck yeah! I agree!

                • Arnegard March 7, 2012 at 1:21 am #

                  Yeah, I remember how the left thought it was ALL about Obama, hence, my metaphor with him being a god, so don’t be accusing conservatives about talking about him.
                  And yes, you are correct, that many conservatives are hypocrites in their views of God and politics. No arguments there at all.
                  Thirdly, as I have pointed out in this whole discussion, don’t blame the Far Right for wars and excuses for wars that are never declared but fought anyways. In fact, as I am trying to point out, Repubs and Dems are equally to blame for that crap. I know you’re not saying that the Dems are not, because your president continues to invade countries and kill people. Can we at least agree that both sides are hawks and are somehow benefiting from it (or at least think they are benefiting)????
                  The only thing I am trying to be “right” about on this, John, is that BOTH parties are equally wiling to go to undeclared war over issues that shouldn’t result in war. That is all I am asking you to concede, and not because it’s my blog, because you have done a lot to promote my view and I appreciate it, but because it is the truth that the Dem vs. Rep thing has little to do with that fact that our leader now and our past leaders are willing to kill people in other countries for reasons that Jessica pointed out. This is a blog about liberals and conservatives, not Dems and Repubs. Quite a difference, especially today. Dems and Repubs these days are QUITE similar.

                  Edit: I remember Obama saying something to the effect of him moving the tides, etc….so I think the religious craziness and blasphemy is equal on both sides..and I will concede that except for the current president and his narcissism, probably worse on the conservative side…hence, Santorum and puds like him.

                  • john liming March 7, 2012 at 2:01 am #

                    I think I am getting your drift on the “War” thing.

                    When I was a kid, there was always this old saying that when Republicans are in power, the economy goes to Heck and when Democrats are in power there is going to be a war. In the past few years, that seems to have changed but maybe that is all circumstantial.
                    You are definitely right when you say that we are going to war when we maybe should not be but I don’t know too much about why we do unless it is for resources to sustain the Military/Industrial Complex that President Eisenhower warned us not to try and maintain.
                    History seems to show that nations end up flexing their military might in big ways and it is usually their downfall in the end…according to History. You are right about the war thing, I think– but I do not know what motivates the leadership when they decide to invade somewhere…so Arne—are you a centrist or something? I love your definition of Candied-date Sanitarium and I know about the “Puds” because I was Catholic until some fat Deacon told me that I wasn’t welcome to serve Christ in “His” church as long as I was going to be a person possessed of “Liberal Nonsense.” I haven’t been back. Yeah, “Puds” is good!
                    I agree that we seem to have gone a little nuts on the war thing and I don’t know why– it would really bother me if I were younger…but I still like Obama because he is the President and I am ex military and …I love America….If some Republican gets in there (Not likely just yet) I will like him too…because he is President…I have liked Republican Presidents before… I even voted to Nixon.

                    • Jacque November 10, 2013 at 4:06 pm #

                      I had a feeling you were a grown man, well into adulthood, but you were a bitter liberal ex-Catholic. I find it amusing that you shed your bitter child like attitude, filled with name calling and snark, when someone meets you with calm and reasonable responses. Something must’ve happened that cultivated your current pathetic demeanor.

                      You’re an angry teenager in an adult buddy. This is the typical of a modern day liberal.

                      Also, the priest was quite out of bounds in his disagreement with your political views – but then again even if he was gracious your liberal views would be going against the Church teachings either way.

                      >>If some Republican gets in there

                      Even after you made up all the those sadly laughable insults? If I recall, “Ree-pub-LICKTONS” or something like that.

                      You have been expose as a fool, John.

    • Arnegard March 7, 2012 at 1:41 am #

      Quietly? Quietly? Are you f*(king serious? Obama didn’t quietly take out Bin Laden. He made every opportunity to take credit for it quite loudly and then made sure there was a movie made about HIM doing it!!! Come on John!!!!!

      • john liming March 7, 2012 at 2:03 am #

        don’t say the “F” word…it ain’t nice.

  2. Arnegard October 24, 2011 at 1:41 pm #

    Understood. However, you’re not doing a very good job at explaining why it’s okay for Obama to kill people but not George Bush. I’m also curious as to why if you think that those people are so bad, that you supported and still support administrations that train and finance them? HHmm?

  3. john liming October 25, 2011 at 8:22 pm #

    American Administrations supported Sadam Hussein for years. American administrations have supported many dictatorial regimes until it no longer suited their purposes. It was o.k. for G.W. to kill people. He killed many many citizens of Iraq, didn’t he? We all supported that effort with our taxes didn’t we?

  4. john liming October 25, 2011 at 8:36 pm #

    14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush’s daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion.

    • Arnegard October 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm #

      Ah, John. You are correct. And thankfully, liberals such as Bush and Cheney are no longer in power. However, you are still not able to tell me why liberals raked them over the coals as being war mongers, but refuse to do the same thing to Barky, who has continued those same wars and even involved us into more. Furthermore, let’s not forget that Cheney was considered evil because of all the Halliburton contracts. Guess who was part of those accusations, but then got into office and re-signed those same contracts.

  5. john liming November 9, 2011 at 3:48 am #

    Bush was called a “war monger” by liberals as he continued to keep us involved militarily in other countries—My question is, “If it was good when Bush did it, why is it bad now that Obama is doing some of the same?”

    • Arnegard November 9, 2011 at 10:18 am #

      You’re question is nonsensical, considering the content of the article. It is clear that the media and the liberal left has considered it “good” since Obama is blameless by them for everything.

  6. voter January 8, 2012 at 5:10 am #

    I left the US in 2001 to live in Asia. Every time I return I see the USA getting worse.

    When I leave from a sparkling new modern Asian airport like Hong Kong and land at a run down American airport like LAX that has faded signs, broken water fountains, and a decor that looks like it hasn’t been updated since 1984, I feel like I have arrived in a 3rd world country.

    I see Americans getting fatter.

    I see more laws in the USA that outlaw everything from baggy pants to sex tourism to artificial turf to feeding the homeless to banning fast food restaurants.

    I see the end of freedom in the US. Americans can now be added to no fly lists. The US Constitution has been overruled by the Patriot Act that has legalized wiretaps
    without a warrant and allows the government to deport and strip any American of his or her citizenship. Does that sound American to you?

    http://articles.latimes.com/print/2011/jun/02/news/la-pn-patriot-act-alarm-20110602

    The prison at Guantanamo has been opened to detain and torture suspected terrorists indefinitely without trial.

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/06/25/human_rights_chief_appeals_to_us_on_guantanamo_inmates/

    The US now has a secret panel “kill list” of Americans who are targeted to be assassinated without a trial.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-cia-killlist-idUSTRE79475C20111005

    President Obama recently signed the National Defense Authorization Act that allows the indefinite detention of any American or foreigner accused of terrorism without trial by the US military on US or foreign soil.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/

    I see a higher unemployment rate and more welfare. I see jobs have been offshored to cheaper countries, more jobs lost to technology, and the US flooded with illegal immigrants that take American jobs, don’t pay taxes, and drain government resources.

    I see indebted Americans who bought more than they could afford and a broke US government that has lowered taxes, but increased spending on unnecessary wars.

    Looking at the history of Rome and the United States, I see some disturbing parallels:

    1. While becoming a superpower, Rome abandoned the very values with which it had won its supremacy.

    2. Roman rulers used “self-defense” pretexts to invade other countries, with hawks criticizing doves for not being patriotic.

    3. War benefited the Roman elite before the masses.

    4. Wars were sold as about liberty and justice defeating tyranny.

    5. The aggressor nation stated conditions to avoid war that are impossible for the opponent to comply with.

    6. Powerful Romans hated to make concessions. They would have rather fought to the death instead of giving in to the the demands of citizens. The elite felt that they earned it, even though they used corruption to amass their wealth.

    7. Romans became weak and lazy because the masses were given free bread and circuses.

    8. The people seen as “barbarians” gradually wore down the empire, causing it to spend itself into bankruptcy.

    Americans should not just be concerned by the recent changes in the US, they should be outraged. We need to get our country back.

    I suggest that we start moving the US in a better direction by doing the following:

    1. Americans would be more healthier and better looking if they just started eating
    less and exercising more.

    2. The US really needs to end the very scary and obvious movement that is banning freedom, increasing nanny state laws, and expanding the creation of a military socialist dictatorship. Even if politicians says they won’t use unconstitutional laws on the books now, doesn’t mean that later officials won’t. Americans that stay silent while illegal laws are enacted should not depend entirely on the Supreme Court to protect their rights because courts once protected slavery, segregation, and concentration camps as well. The time to protest unconstitutional laws is before they are enacted. Americans cannot naively believe a dictator like Hitler or Stalin will never seize power in the US.

    If America has no freedom, criticizing countries like China or North Korea is hypocritical.

    Everyone opposes terrorism, but if you want to prevent terrorism, give suspected terrorists a trial, improve airline security, and don’t give out visas easily. Terrorism should not be an excuse to declare war against Americans. Not only are many of the growing flood of regulations wrong, they are also unnecessary. One only needs to look at the pro-democracy protests in the Middle East to see Arabs prefer following a democratic model instead of Osama bin Laden terrorism.

    3. Americans should call for a much smaller government with less welfare, a greatly reduced military budget, a tax hike on the richest, higher visa fees for foreigners, increasing sin taxes on alcohol and tobacco, reducing the wages of government workers, ending government farm and airline subsidies, and eliminating less important programs like Amtrak, PBS, and the National Endowment for the Arts. We should stop extending unemployment benefits and require unemployed Americans to take jobs in farming, meatpacking plants, construction, landscaping, and hotels. Business people should not punished while lazy people are encouraged to depend on government welfare. Welfare makes people lazy and no country would be foolish enough to attack the US even with a smaller military. We need to get the American house in order before we try to control the world.

    4. Americans need to start moving overseas to teach English and export US products. Whining about jobs being outsourced because foreign workers are willing to work cheaper is not very practical. Americans would be shocked how poor product quality and shopping selection is in 3rd world countries compared to the US. Would you rather have an American car or a Chinese one?

    5. One of the few areas the US government needs to increase spending is enforcing immigration laws and protecting the border from illegal immigrants. Limited legal immigration is not bad, but allowing illegal immigrants to live in the US encourages disrespect for the law. Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to have driver licenses, pay in-state tuition, or receive government benefits. The lives of illegals should not be made easier or be rewarded for breaking the law. Illegals should be deported and employers should be required to use
    E-Verify. If 13 million Americans are out of work, 12 million illegal immigrants should not be taking up the jobs.

    6. Americans need to start living within their means and stop taking on credit card debt, auto
    loans, mortgages, and student loans. What you want and what you need are two different things.

    7. Americans should vote for any presidential candidate other than Obama. Obama is a pessimistic pro-government, anti-business, anti-freedom, pro-illegal immigration, and pro-war politician who is continuing most of the worst policies of George W. Bush that will bankrupt the US without improving much at all.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/06/obama-we-still-face-some-tough-times/1

    http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/03/26/congress_completes_overhaul_of_health_care/

    http://articles.latimes.com/print/2009/jan/28/nation/na-obama-capitol-hill28

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-acts-ease-burden-student-loans-001017820.html

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/09/GOP-Obama-regs-are-killing-jobs-548766/1

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/05/news/la-pn-obama-immigration-regulation-20120105

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1946990,00.html

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/10/obama-dispatches-100-troops-to-uganda/1

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-21-1Alibya21_CV_N.htm

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/11/fed-debt-hits-15-trillion-gop-blasts-obama/1

    8. Americans also need to remain confident. The USA is by far the richest and most powerful country in the world. Who invented the assembly line, telephones, movies, light bulbs, airplanes, air conditioning, elevators, skyscrapers, television, the atomic bomb, the pill, calculators, microwaves, lasers, the Internet, mobile phones, the space shuttle, and landed on the moon? What country wins the most medals at the Olympics despite having only 5% of the world population? If the United States is dying, why do so many people want to immigrate there?

    While I must admit that I once did not oppose some of the policies like the Iraq war, less banking regulation, and tax cuts that lead to part of our current troubles, I now fear that more terrorism laws, bigger government, coddling illegal immigrants, and increased debt are not the solutions to our problems. I was quiet once about concerns I saw in the past and I regret it. Now I think people should not keep silent while watching a potential train wreck.

    The problems facing the USA require urgent action. I love the United States and I do not want the strongest, richest, and most free country in the world to fall. Talk about the changes happening to the US with your friends and family, contact the media, and write to your elected officials. America won’t be a beacon to the world if freedom is banned and the US goes bankrupt. Stand up, fight for your rights, and protect our country now!

    http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
    _______________________________

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    The best government is that which governs least.

    Be the change you wish to see.

  7. Andrew Stergiou July 8, 2012 at 5:54 am #

    Though this is a fairly good question the same question could be asked of GOPer Conservatives as to why they did not say the same things to Bush and past Republicans that they say about Obama.

    • Arnegard July 8, 2012 at 10:04 am #

      I agree with that, because Bush was a flaming liberal as well. But that’s not the point. Obama has been a HUGE warmonger after campaigning and fooling all the hippies that he was such a peaceful dude. Only in our screwed up world could a warmonger win the Nobel Peace Prize.

      • Andrew Stergiou July 8, 2012 at 10:45 am #

        We agree but add there is a sense of hypocrisy in American politics.

        Americans conservatives and liberals are like an Atheists who base what they believe (profess, accept etc.) based on what they reject that others believe though both claim to believe in truth there is no truth in them only relative arguments.

        Surprisingly though some conservatives can distinguish real threats from false ones, as in economic (Conservative Caucus) and hollow foreign policies of imperial adventurism that do not serve the peoples interests (Ron Paul) To simply and vaguely call G.W. Bush a liberal reveals you have no sense of what is a liberal or how to apply such a label in the politics of individuals who as professional politicians have no real loyalty to any ideal but convenience wealth power self-serving aggrandizement and ego:

        Where there is room in discussion but American politics has been diminished by the mainstay of American political fund raisers the 30 second sound bite, where I would take a Bill Buckley over a Ronald Reagan or Mitt Romney any day.

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